Cliff 1

Talcon 00:00Today's date is October 7, 2025 and if you would please, like, state your name, that you'll be doing the recording under.

Cliff 00:14My name is Cliff, and I've been down here since 1970.

Talcon 00:20And what year were you born, Cliff?

Cliff 00:221950.

Talcon 00:24Okay, so I need to ask a couple release questions. Are you, do you consent to being recorded today?

Cliff 00:32Sure.

Talcon 00:32Do you consent to this recording being transcribed?

Cliff 00:35Sure.

Talcon 00:36And are you comfortable ..... do you consent to this recording being and transcript being archived and publicly accessible through the Cannabis Museum?

Cliff 00:46Sure.

Talcon 00:46Do you consent to it being used for future projects, such as podcasts or documentaries?

Cliff 00:52That's fine.

Talcon 00:53Okay, are there any stipulations you want to put on that consent, like wait until after you're dead or ask permission?

Cliff 01:03(Laughs) No,

Talcon 01:05Okay.

Cliff 01:06Just use it wherever you think it'll help,

Talcon 01:08Okay. Great, thank you. We appreciate that. You will have 30 days after you receive a copy of the recording to let us know if there's anything you want omitted

Cliff 01:22Okay.

Talcon 01:22And do during this recording, if you say something and you're, you're like, "Actually take that off the record", feel free to say that into the recording, and we'll go back and we'll remove it.

Cliff 01:31Okay.

Talcon 01:34So, what age are you today, Cliff?

Cliff 01:3875.

Talcon 01:40And what year were you born?

Cliff 01:411950.

Talcon 01:42Will you give us some of your background, like what region did you grow up? What was your family life like?

Cliff 01:49Right. I grew up in Cleveland, like a lot of folks that came back down here. And my parents were bookkeepers, both of them. One worked in a credit union, and the other one worked as a statistician for a big manufacturing plant, in Cleveland. So, yeah, but I came down here because its a pretty place to be, and it got me out of the city, where I was just gettin' in trouble. (Laughs)

Talcon 02:35I'm gonna pause for a minute. Johnny, are you able to hear him? Okay, or you want him to move closer to the table or anything?

Cliff 02:42We started coming down in ' 69. My cousin and his roommate, two doc - medical students from Cleveland, they were studying case - and they came down and rented the house over on Storage Run, and furnished it with all kinds of antique furniture, you know. In fact, the matter is, they even had had a rope bed. You know what a rope bed is?

John Clift 02:47No, it's great.

Talcon 02:51Cool. Perfect. So, you came down here from Cleveland because it was beautiful, because you didn't want to get in trouble .... did you know people down here, what year did you arrive?